Heavy Kratom Abuse and My 4th Flood

What are people's thoughts on Loperimide (Immodium) for opiate detox?  I have no interest in taking it now, unless my withdrawals get SUPER bad again and it's recommended by folks here (I am doing okay now).  I really have no interest in taking it due to the fact that it's just another opioid, plus 100 pills is scary, plus Ibogaine is still inside of me.  I cannot imagine the constipation.

Excuse my skimming.  I have troubles reading full posts of length.  But anyways... Sure sounds like you should, if ever anyone should.  Which IMO they always should, but you especially seem like it would be the needed icing on the cake.  Protocols as to when are not concrete.  My set program would/could certainly vary from others.  But in answer to the question: Yes.

Reminds me of my last flood.  An African Man (extremely joyful and humble) was pointing up to stars and planets and showing me how to get nourishment out of them.  He was not using words but rather using hand symbols.  At one point it was so striking that I laughed, to which he got offended and that was the end of that particular vision.

Thanks Kambo.  I have about .5 mg of HCL and .3 - .4 of TA.  I have yet to take anything, and still would like some more feedback from others before deciding..... I am all for reaching homeostasis as quickly as possible.  So, if the magic is in the booster protocol post flood, I am all for it.  I feel that coming back to life day by day, the first few days after a flood, really echoes and crystallizes the significance of staying true to your intentions and putting into practice what you have learned.  For example, after Tuesday's intensity, I certainly cannot begin to contemplate the addict mind ever actually winning again when it comes to any opiate.  That is probably coupled with what I learned in my flood and the motivating shame around opiate and nicotine use, 4 floods total this year, and not working since April.....

Hey earnestdeer - congrats on your flood. I've seen KP post that he recommends a booster one week after a flood. This thread might help: http://Ibogaine.club/index.php?topic=1728.msg14545#msg14545 take care!

I would stay away from Loperimide if I were you, take a booster dose or edibles if you are feeling crappy. I used root bark for boosters in the past & used anywhere from 1-5g on days I took it. I'd prob split the HCL up as much as possible to make it last.  In my experience caffeine causes more harm than good when coming off opiates, the amounts it takes to feel any energy at all will just make you feel crappy & have anxiety, especially after a flood. I stop drinking caffeine completely after a flood, its up to you though.  Stay away from alcohol too, it most definitely interferes with Iboga.  Sounds like you're doing pretty good though, I'd be thrilled to be getting any sleep within the first week or 2!  I just came off 4 months of opiate use last month(last 2 1/2 was heroin) & I didn't get ANY sleep for 7-10 days, & after that only an hour or so a night for another week.  The evenings are definitely rough for a while but it gets better. The best thing about using Iboga for coming off opiates is the mental support & depression relief it provides, feeling depressed on top of feeling crappy physically is what makes many people break down & use.  I didn't have extra Iboga for boosters this time so I've been using caapi powder for a mental boost & its been amazing. Sounds like a great experience you had during your flood too, I've never been able to go that deep, must be pretty special to see/experience.

ENTHEO:  Thank you so much for the thread and the tip, I will check it today!  I love the title! EVOLUTION:  I am definitely staying away from the Immodium, no need for it at all.  I will take your advice and make the HCL last, as well as read up on all the booster protocols.  My theory, from my experience, is that the body can only handle so much in a given day without restful restorative sleep.  In addition to that, the fatigue that comes from flooding and opiate detox will be shortened in half with light exercise, movement, slowly pushing your body a little more each day/and knowing when not to of course.  I know I am taking the drug route to assist in this process, but I am okay with that......they are NOT opiates most importantly.  The caffeine doesn't bother me at all, in fact, it gives me just the right amount of kick to get in that yoga session/walk around the block, etc.  Getting a little more done each day, even with the help of caffeine, is really good for my mind as well.  It is a behavior pattern shift that is major in my next phase of maturing and being proud of myself......maintaining a healthy cognitive harmony! I am taking higher than normal doses of melatonin at night, but it's still safe according to my research.  I slept from 11pm-5AM this morning......3 days since my flood!!!  I cannot imagine not sleeping for that long, as you illustrated.    I think I would go delirious and probably start hallucinating again You are absolutely right about the mental aspect being more powerful than the physical.  That has always been my gauge as to whether or not the Iboga did it's job.  Last night I felt minor pain and chills, nothing in comparison to the nights before, but I still had my afterglow!  It is a strange to feel pain and the inner chill, but still feel utter gratitude for being alive in a universe that is eternally abundant.  Happythankyoumoreplease!! Today, I feel great!  I wasn't not sure if I'd make it to my NYE dinner on Monday, but at this rate I'll be more than fine.  I won't get trashed Evolution, but is it unsafe to have 2-3 drinks?

Dangerous in the fact that your noribogaine levels will drop.  For me at least the one time I even had a couple sips of beer after a flood I could feel the post bliss benefits of noribogaine dropping as clear as day. I always make it known that drinking alcohol after Iboga is not a productive decision.  Strongly recommend not taking the risk of messing with your bliss potential and growth of well being that noribogaine is proliferating... ^NORIBOGAINE^ The greatest substance on earth^ If it could be bottled I would drink it like water.  As per specific protocols, it's rather unnecessary considering I am not working with you directly.  Some generalities, I always boost 1 week afterwords and no sooner.  After 2 weeks I do micro dosing at very small levels(500mg-1g for 1 week at a time).  After 1-2 months another boost.  Then a long break.  This is to get the noribogaine rolling and flowing.  Trying to figure out more effective techniques for making noribogaine punctual and long terms in small doses, but nothing is proven yet and many experiments need to be conducted before publishing.  For now it is all theoretical.  Soon will be known about the possibilites, but for now the above method is how I personally get it flowing strong. And DON'T DRINK, eat healthy, ext.  Guard your angelic rebirth like a treasure.  Drama always tries to interfere with me after a flood, or I invite it, who knows.  Relationships are crucial.  Your GF sounds rooted and nice, which makes all the difference.  A wild and difficult significant other can make the post flood experience very trying which is either a blessing in disguise or a grand f-up in teaching.  Seen it happen too much though not to mention it.

Unrelated to the thread but related with my wish for Noribogaine... https://biochem.thc-pharm.de/product_info.php?products_id=210 I guess it's already being manufactured.

Blue Tiger-  I did my first flood on Dec.26th last year, I did not think I would be able to go out on NYE and have a good time, but I did!  I ate just a little bit of fungi and I danced ALL Night long!  It was exactly what I needed and the dancing was good too,  I was around many drunk people and had no desire to drink at all and had one of the best nights of my life!  I think others here would recommend them as well for a boost.

Public is not always the best setting for fungi.  For me I have to be in the woods.  Just putting that out there.  Set and setting the one thing Timothy Leary seemed to get right.

They are fun in the woods too, but I prefer them to alcohol when seeing live music anyway, but I didn't think I would get out there and dance like that without alcohol especially when I had been feeling so weak and tired 5 days after my heavy flood and no opiates for the first time in years!  Plan on doing a repeat this year, the band I saw is pretty tribal, so it felt right and good. To each his own I suppose.