My Weekend of Purging

It realy dosent sound like you had enough at all. Sounds more like a Kambo session with some iboga RB Im sure you would of been happier with TA in caps and not loose RB. A flood with RB would take from 20 to 25, evan 30 grams depending on weight. Ive taken 20 grams of RB at one time and had a great time.  How much was your total intake of RB during your whole time there? I am flooding tonight and will be taking under a gram of HCL and under a gram of TA over the course of the night. Im kinda anxious at the moment   I just did last 16 mgs dilauded so Im just waiting for the nose to start to run. What was your flood aimed at achieving? was it to break an addiction?

Excellent report Entheo!  Your voice in your writing sounds to me like your spirits have risen significantly since you first posted about a botched flood attempt if my memory serves me correctly.  I am a little confused as to why your provider would give you bark to flood with, especially when you have explained your medical stats.  I am not saying he/she is wrong.  It just sounds wrong to me.  It may be a really good thing that you did these Kambo treatments first.  I don't ever plan on doing a full flood with just bark.  Although, if done properly, I do hear it can be the best type of flood of all the 3.  I don't plan on ever flooding again.  I am at 4, and my lifetime limit is 6 I have decided.....but who knows, I am so volatile right now, you may just find me in Gabon in a couple months (highly unlikely).  You attempted a flood on bark with a pre-existing heart condition?  I am not that surprised to hear you purged like crazy.  That is very interesting that you had no visions on aya after 3 sessions, and just purging.  I would have to agree that your body has chosen purging as the appropriate route to rapidly detoxify yourself.  I know this cute tiny chick who has a stomach of steel!  She never throws up, and she does Kambo (which I always thought was THE purging medicine in a way).  Essentially I am just trying to say that I wouldn't get stuck in a feedback loop on this whole purging thing.  It could be something significant, it probably isn't.  But I am no medical professional.      It is good to hear that you were so diligent about monitoring your heart.  We were certainly thinking about you... I am also curious to hear what others will reply to your report.  All in all, you made it through!  Congratulations!  Even though you did not "flood", you have gone through quite the large amount of shamanic healing over a few days span.  Maybe be EXTRA kind to yourself now, and always, but certainly right now.  Listen to your body and your instinct, usually right after this type of healing you will be extra receptive to what your body is craving, or not craving in terms of food.

I was a little dazed and confused when i first reported back and probably a tad disappointed. However, the painbody insight that I got about 10 days before my flood coupled with watching the ET vids tht lala posted about the painbody has had a huge effect on me. I'm just not going to be dragged down there anymore. Sure it would have been great to flood but feeling sad about not flooding is not going to change the reality of what actually occurred. You and me both. Partly my fault for not getting 100% confirmation/clarification but I ended up writing a detailed email to my provider with some of these same questions as well as some other things I wasn't 100% happy with. Didn't really get a satifisfactory answer but I did get an apology. Kambo is good for kicking down the door to let Iboga in which is why I did it that way. IF you look on the Kambo forum search on Papa kambo Papa I'm trying but if someone is shouting something in your face, its hard to dismiss the fact that they are saying something ...! I can't tell you how much I appreciate your thoughts. I'm mostly tuned into the kambo and have the energy drive that kambo gives you - getting lots done but at the same time taking time to rest - how's that for living a balanced life?!! It's freaking amazing and like I said, I'm surprisingly positive and accepting of what occurred (as well as what didn't occur). Something has been going on with me this last 9 months... to be continued.

PTA and usually TA purging is cathartic and beautiful RB purging is very painful and hellish I typed 2 long posts but both times when I went to post they got deleted when someone else posted before.  So I got too frustrated to rewrite.  Regards

He's just so busy.  I know full well he is developing plans to flood people with TA.  He is very natural in his approach and it took some convincing to him that TA and PTA does not have to have chemicals and can still be of nature.  I find him to be highly adaptable and I know for a fact that he has advanced his approach based on your experience.  So in effect your experience will pave the way for others to have even better healing.  If that makes sense even though written inside knowing.

Hi entheo, Thank you for the report!  I think that Ibo will give you what you need for now, keeping that positive attitude is the best thing.  I am curious if you have had visuals on any entheogens?   Have you noticed your dreams being more vibrant and realistic? Possibly in the future you can try again.  I am glad you are back safe and sound. much love, roxine

Just between us and this forum I was able to put a correspondance with him and your treatment together as being succinctly tied together.  So yes, because of your valuable experience he know has interest.  I have been trying to get him to be receptive for a loooong time and only DIRECTLY after your treatment (even though we didn't discuss you or your case ever) did he for the first time express interest.  It's one in the same and I thank you for this.

That's great Kambo! I know who you are speaking of and he is a wonderful healer that we have a lot to learn from and I know you specifically have gained a lot through him.  I think it is also good that he may be able to learn from you and entheo and he is able keep an open mind.  Wonderful! roxine

There are several in your neck of the woods on the Kambo forum, I think they need help learning to do Kambo.   Maybe exchange of that sorts?  I can try and connect the dots if so.

It's always so interesting when I realize that we here in Turtle Island (United States) set the trend for Iboga and Europe is behind us by and large.  Hopefully this is not offensive to other areas of the world but for whatever reason it seems Gabon went straight to the US and asked it to advance the methods to the most efficient way possible.  I have 2 friends in the Netherlands running treatment works or centers with the medicines that are finally catching up.  And especially this forum sets the tone for all sorts of advancements.  Which is why I stick around no matter what happens, don't want to miss a thing.

hmm interesting guys...Maybe Iboga knew we would be the first ones who would want to try to flood multiple times in a year and push the limits.... after all we are Americans... there isn't much we do in moderation right?

Lalababa.. that is so true and made me laugh.. for what its worth.. I thought my first  hcl flood was a complete failure and i was angry and resentful..  I was PISSED and felt i wasted money and time. I thought i was in worse shape than when I arrived.. I was told to be patient and make as much with life as i could.. do new things and appreciate that many habits could have seen thier last day if i was willing to actually do some work.. i pretty much went back to using shortly after.. and suddenly one day about a week after picking up again, I just up and quit. i even threw away what i still had.  the things i learned in the long months after was that the true benefit wasn't some immediate gratification with all the answers before... but the work that came after.. up to six months after.. thats the funny thing about our culture.. we want it all and we want it now.. that ol iboga is a sneaky snoot... slow and patient... I tend to stay away from the clinical speak in here, but i agree with your little poke with humor lala... thats another reason I am all about finding the right provider who really not just understand the medicine but has some insight and skill in reading the session as it happens, and knows when slow dose or low dose will have the better impact and function... and...knowing what to expect in the months following ... I have had small ta boosters do more than strong hcl boosters.. it varies and depends.. we all love the medicine and have different relationships with this unique and powerful substance...