the strangest magic ever .
i will finish this at some point later today/tomorrow. i promise . its been a late night with a stomache bug and i needs me sleep right now. but ahh do i sleep better after my experience ? A: i sleep better now than i have in god knows how long. the answer is yes. sleep along with many other things - many reveal themselves anew each day - have been better since i did Ibogaine. more soon. - harvey plex
Fantastic harveyplex! Been waiting to hear some news! I'll poke around and get those pics up as soon as may be...I'm sure the holiday season will probably slow some of us down for a while- but I'm really looking forward to a great new year and hopefully getting some new members around. We have to start somewhere yes? Thanks for all your work man, there's nothing quite as valuable as experience itself...many blessings and we'll hook those pics up or at least drop a link to them asap! Peace!!
"HARVEY'S JOURNEY" from his sitter JP Monday December 14 2009 12PM Harvey took a small test dose(.5g) of ibogaine to test for any negative reactions. 12:30 He took a shower. He can feel something. Possibly the dramamine he took for motion sickness. He can feel a slight effect on his moter skill. 1PM Harvey took 4 - 1g capsules. (from this dose he will begin to enter the FLOOD!) 1:20 He can feel his stomache churning. Still waiting for the onset... He can hear a ringing in his ears. 1:30 His body feels heavy. He's concious of the shift. Warm feelings or glowing sensations. 1:50 He is expierencing a twitching sensation in his eye. He compares it to what you might feel on x-tasy. 2:30 He's still capable of conversations. I can tell he's enjoying it so far. He speaks of seeing a dog walk in the mirror in front of him. He visioned cats, as well as being able to look through objects. 2:45 He took one more 1g capsule. 3:20 He took one more 1g capsule. He seems to be taking it well. 4:10PM It seems now that he is full fledge into it. He took 1g capsule. 4:45 He took the last 1g capsule. He feels queezy. He wants to see his girl friend Leslie. 5:20 He threw up once. He feels better. 5:30 Leslie arrived, and I left. 7:15PM When I returned & looked in on Harvey he was still doing good. He can talk but he forgets what he's talking about. 8:00 Leslie said, "harvey got up to use the bathroom and broke a sweat. He threw up a little liquid." Leslie went back home. 10PM Harvey is still well on his way. One min. I think he's fine, and the next he's back to "iboga randomness." Harvey took 8.5grams all together. I was in the room next to harvey's at the hotel. I looked in on him every two to three hrs threw the night. We left the Super 8 the next morning around 9:45am. We went for a small cruse in my truck. I don't think he was ready for this at all,so we cut it short and I took harvey to his house. I left tuesday the 15th around 5 pm. He was calm, but still has not sleep any. JP
Thanks for the great notes JP - look forward to hearing some more 'subjective' experience details too! Thanks for being there for your friend, sitting is definitely NOT easy work. Just to be certain, you guys are talking about extracted iboga total-alkaloid, not pure ibogaine correct? Just don't want anyone to be confused. A dose that large of ibogaine may well prove very dangerous indeed. I am grateful for your support and input here JP and harveyplex....I think this work is so important and you guys are a big part of showing people not only that it CAN be done, but how to negotiate some of the obstacles that may present...great work!!
Brilliant, y'all, thank you so much for being willing to put it out there. Harvey, I've been follwoing this on a couple fronts. Please keep giving updates. Your input is followed and appreciated. Keep letting us know what's happening. Blessings to you both. T
Hello! I just wanted to add a little of my experience with harvey plex. The atmosphere in the room was comfortable and relaxed-just a candle for light, and nothing else. I sat with harvey for 2 1/2 hours-from 5:30 pm until 8:00 pm. harvey would drift in and out of being there with me. He knew exactly what was taking place in the room, while journying back and forth-so our conversation was in bits and peices. I noticed laying next to harvey that his breath was very shallow-but it had no urgency to it-just a calm and steady rythym. He was aware of me leaving the room for the night. I spoke with JP before I left and wrote a bit in his journal. Harvey also had JP call me before my bedtime to say goodnight. I didn't expect harvey home until Wed am so I was surprised to see him home Tuesday when I got home for lunch. He was still experiencing a lot of the effects of the drug and our conversations were very disjointed. He was still talking alot about what he had "seen"-and laughing out loud-a real hearty laugh. I have to admit I was not as prepared for the after-treatment. I know I gave harvey some strange looks when he would veer off course. I now know it is better to let the person talk and talk-and not try to correct them so much-they are still sorting through some things-and I could see the frustration on his face when I furrowed my brow in misunderstainding. Thursday night he had a decent meal and slept soundly for about 5-6 hours straight. The sleep improved from there on. I think harvey would have benefited from another quiet night away from the house and the dogs. And he could have taken it a little easier in the days that followed. But it was a great experience to share with him and I am so proud of him for doing it all himself beginning to end.
First of all-welcome lesly, and CONGRATULATIONS to you both! harvey, thank you for the kind words man, I'm glad you and your loved ones are on board. What an intense experience that must have been for you! Those are startling visions you describe - amazing... I understand that trying to communicate such far out ideas and concepts is tricky (to say the least) and it fills me with gratitude that you trust us enough here to 'go out on a limb' and share such personal details. Bwiti refer to eboga as 'breaking open the head' - yours seems a quintessential example of just this sort of initiation. It takes time to remember what goes on after taking this medicine, I was unsure if my own memory would ever be able to conjure everything that I saw or felt. Keeping a journal helped this immensely. I think you did fantastic work and it's awesome to have your experiences recorded here - never know when it will help someone else. Keep up the good work friend and bask in the glow, you earned it!
Welcome lesly! And congratulations both of you! Harvey, I also thank you for sharing such detail, and I admit my abiding love with Iboga was rekindled by reading it. Excellent notes, it seems ya got what you came for. lesly, I agree that people can use as much time away from 'routine' as ossible. Harvey, you're still in the stage where you can establish new patterns of thinking and living. I'm sure you're making the best of it! Warm, warm hugs to you both. When I meet you, these will translate into realtime.
I was wondering where I can find actual Bwiti music, for my next experience? Have any links or available downloads that would be good?
Hey wolfmoon , I am glad to see you here ! I have Bwitti Music Links for you and everybody else. My friend in NYC (Bovenga Na Muduma)sent me these links and i listened to the music during my experience - it really pushes you along ! I am home on a break so i will post again later. take care friends and enjoy the links to the bwitti music . - harvey plex Here are 2 zip files with lots of music to download. http://files.me.com/robert.payne/kv8mz6 http://files.me.com/robert.payne/9obvnh I suggest letting your sitter work a rattle at certain times, with the music or solo, loud. I had an incredible breakthrough my first journey, and that was in a dark, quiet room. I probably wouldn't do that again, now the music plays such a strong role in my life. In orthodox bwiti, harp is for daylight hours and mougongo is for nightfall. No one is that rigid about that anymore, I think. The music is designed to push you along. To help you be the water, not the rock.
Thanks a bunch, I'll have to make room on the computer, and check it all out.
Thanks for the link Harveyplex!
My pleasure sunnyhawk ! -hp
Awesome stuff Harvey' very glad you did the ground work and got it all spot on' Good energies to you' Be Well! Nobu +
I am still sober today.
Great to hear HP and GD, peace to you guys!
Congratulations, HP! I am not sober, but I ain't using any addictive substances, other than bacon hamburgers! Keep up the good work!
i just wanted to add that i have over two years CLEAN from the habit forming narcotics i was on before this flood , my first and most incredible flood thus far . I just flooded for the 3rd intentional time - there is a time i thought i was taking a high boost dose and ended up having a minor flood , it had all the proper flood elements. that could be considered flood 4 i guess . I continue to work with this medicine personally and with others . Its still the greatest thing i know . i have been touched and blessed by this plant spirit ever since my first encounter i had with it . just wanted to note that as of last december , its been two years off that shit .
Harveyplex HI, couple a days ago you talked about the extraction, and you almost convinced me to do it again. But your report, or to be more precise your sitter report didn't convince me. To me a definition of full flood is when one: - lays down in the bed and has pulls rate goes down half of the beats, - when you can't lift even a finger - and it lasts like that for 4 hours. What was your last step in extraction acetone Hcl, or was ammonia. It seems that whole night you could sit up and walk around? true? thanx roxine_writes