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cloris
30 Sept 2026

Wanting to flood again – have questions

I've been back on the pain pills for over a month now and have grown quite distraught over this and just being tired and unmotivated all the time. I did a flood back in August and it knocked me down real hard for over one month. I had been taking Adderall 60 mg per day and quit the Adderall only one day before doing the flood. Since then, I have been told by people here that the Adderall was a big problem and the reason I got my ass knocked down so hard. My plan is to use HCL 15 mg/kilogram. I know this is on the low-end but have read of knowledgeable providers using and having success with lower dosages. My main question is what can I expect as to how long after the flood it will be before I will be functional. By functional, I mean able to work. I have an office job that is mentally demanding, but not physically demanding. Any additional advice or insight will be appreciated. Thank you.
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roxine· 30 Sept 2026

Hi cloris! Wow, yes the adderal was a bad idea, how long did your recovery take for the first flood?  Did you also use HCL on your first flood? Can you tell us what kind of pain pills?  Are the SAO's? How much are you taking? I believe that the recovery time is shorter with HCL, but I have no experience with it.  Also, I think that being your second flood you would need less than your initial one.  How long has it been since your first flood?  Have you heard of or considered Kambo? It can be frightening, but is safe and in my experience, using it before hand, a day before...(.I did it the same day as my last flood ) made the recovery almost instant.  I also gave it to another friend before he flooded for alcoholism and he felt amazing from the get go as well. answering some of the questions may help us give you a better idea of what you are looking at, but it can still vary from person to person and flood to flood. If you have only been on pills for a month the recovery time should be much less I would imagine. roxine

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cloris· 30 Sept 2026

roxine, Was TA and HCl when did flood in August. Took 6 wks before could go back to office. Am using about 50-60 mg of oxycodone per day. Have read a fair amount about Kambo but have some trepidation because of apparent intensity. Also question whether I could properly administer it. Would give it a try if it would help that much. Thanks.

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roxine· 30 Sept 2026

And you were coming off Subs before right?  If so this should be MUCH easier...  The Kambo did help  me tremendously... read my Kambo-Ibo-Combo thread under journals, but even without it,  I think you will be much better off, physically and mentally, afterward than last time... I am fairly certain, Especially if you were coming off of subs before.... others may have more info than I.

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georgena92· 30 Sept 2026

Kambo gave me some clear instructions that those that consult it should have absolutely no doubt in their heart that it is for them.  Just putting that out there.  It is IMO the most powerful and effective healing modality, I just have resorted to denying treating or giving advice on how to administer to those with even the slightest doubt about being called to it.  It is a sacrament/ointment or unparalleled proportions and I think it best to mitigate any potential improper use.  More than anything one needs to be absolutely determined to heal, if they are not than overall I would consider it a waste of time to encourage Kambo for someone.  Although I personally won't treat people until I have thoroughly detoxed them with Kambo, I recognize we all have different needs.  Kambo is very safe BTW, I've done it about 40+ times in the course of a year and a half, sometimes going so far as to purge up black bile for 2 hours, and I truly think if I haven't died than no one will.  Never when I treat anyone with Kambo do I have any fears about their safety.  It is best though when you reach the heart beating in the head, face swelling, thinking "I think I'm gonna die" sensation.  All that aside only consult Kambo if you are 100% certain.  I've recently realized that Giovanni Lattanzi (forerunner of modern day Kambo applications as well as an Iboga healer) hit the nail on the head when he told me a while back that only a serious healer should administer Kambo.  Call it snobby, but I've just been observing over time how his words now make perfect sense.  PS one can also micro dose with Kambo and not go through the horrendous ordeal, granted it is not as effective but over time it really serves a detox/healing/immune building purpose.  All the best.  Make sure your 100% committed to healing and dive in head first.

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cloris· 30 Sept 2026

I have the determination to heal although its a kind of desperation to find some type of peace or satisfaction in life. I did some more reading of pasts posts and came across info that Kambo helps with healing the adrenal axis. The one time I went through all the tests to find a physical cause of my fatigue they found a problem with extremely low cortisol and thought I had some problem with the adrenal or pituitary gland. The doctors could never put a finger on it exactly. I need to look into finding a provider with experience. Don't know if that's crossing the line to ask here. I've fought addiction my whole life. Despite this I have had some success running a business although recently haven't had the energy or ambition. Most days I don't feel worth a darn until noon or after no matter what time I get up. Getting to be a real drag. Yeah, I have the determination to change and Kambo and iboga seem the most promising. I'm open to any advice or suggestions and answering any questions about myself or my issues that you have.

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humbleaspen· 02 Oct 2026

Just read ur bit about the pituitary gland, as mine has shut down (it's the main dysfunction in depersonalization) I too experience low energy and fatigue .... Also the hp axis which is severely affected due to emotional trauma

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roxine· 30 Sept 2026

cloris, that is interesting... KP would know MUCH more than I on the subject of Kambo, but I have used the medicine several times, I think if a tiny little girl like me, who is/was prone to panic attacks can do it, you can. Go to his Kambo forum to learn more about it http://kambo.me/smf/index.php I am sure he would be more than willing to tell you anything you wanted to know.  It can be scary, but knowing the fact that it won't kill you makes it much easier.  I personally think that the two medicines used together are a miracle! (by themselves they are as well) but WOW.

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