YES ANOTHER PERSON PREPARING FOR A FLOOD

Michelle isn't a provider she is a supplier.  Her dosing recommendations may be pretty good but she is still thinking about that profit margin (not that a lot of providers aren't too).  I would wait longer MisKK.. My friend weaned down slower than that.. he was at a much higher dose to begin with and for a long time but had been at 80 and less for two years...  I would wean down to 30 or less and stay there for awhile of just switch to SAO now for at least a month, longer if possible.  My friend took boosters when he felt the withdrawal come back but still couldn't take it he had been at 30 for two weeks, not long enough.  You may be able to pull this off but you will probably still get withdrawal coming from that amount and it won't be easy... I just want you to have the best chance possible and it seems like it fails when it is rushed. roxine

Hi! Please don't rush it...  I just learned this the hard way recently sitting for someone.  They weaned down to 30mgs of methadone, had weaned down from much more over the last two years.  He had a very intense flood and was given a lot... a Friday was his last dose... that next Monday back at the clinic.  If you are going from that amount you need to switch to SAO for at the very least a month.  I would get down to 30 or less and stay there awhile... then switch to SAO for a month if possible.  How long have you been on methadone?  What was your highest dose and how long have you been reducing? These are important questions.  I want this to work for you. much love, roxine I had high hopes for my friend.. he really seemed to want it and took the medicine like a trooper..  You will probably still have withdrawal coming from that amount...

as for comparing to your datura experience, from all i read (i have not used datura) datura induces a delirium while iboga induces hallucinations. i did not know the difference until recently so i thought it might be worth mentioning.. good luck

MKK, Welcome to Iboga!    This will not be like Datura from what I have read...I have never and don't plan on ever trying it.  Iboga is like nothing else on the planet, it is really tough to try and compare it to other entheogens.  It is THE entheogen if you ask me.  It is unique in it's chemical structure, and there is no other plant teacher with physical healing properties like Iboga.  Glad you got your med testing done, and it seems like you have all your ducks in a row.  I completely agree with lalababa.  It is sound advice and could save you a lot of time and energy.  SAO's for as long as possible will minimize recovery time, at least this is what we consistently see.  This is a a process and waiting that time is just another part.  You can do this!!  Start to relax about the experience if you can.  Fear is natural and inevitable.  This is not Datura, so just let go of that.  Start to get excited about the fact that you found the sacrament!

Thank you all for the feedback.  I have been reducing for about 2 months now.  I was at 100mg my highest but that was last year. I have been at 65mg to 55mg for about 2 months but I have been taking it, every other day.  This is really like taking half of my official dose.  I will be starting the SAO now which gives me 8 days.  Do you really feel that is not enough time?  Why would Michelle give me bad info?   I trust what a majority of people would say so I am leaning towards what you guys are saying.  Its funny you read everything you can and some people say its ok just don't take your methadone 24 hours before ibogaine.  I plan on not taking methadone for 8 days and being on a SAO.  Taking the methadone everyother day I was hoping that would help. As for the feedback on who intense it will be I appreciate that its different from other substances.  DMT was nothing like anything else I have done.  Although Datura is a delirium, you do hallucinate and can not tell what is real or a hallucination.  I guess thats why your delirious!    I really am not sure what to expect then.  No one can tell me something that is comparative.  Is it more like when you are really sleep deprived and you are dreaming/sleeping at the same time your sort of awake?  Like a light dream or sleep while watching tv?  Going back to my treatment.  Michelle said I should be ok, but if I am in withdrawl to take a booster dose.   Will this not take away the withdrawls if I am in it?    I am very ready to get off all this stuff.  I just can't stand being sick!   It to much for me and its why I can't stop.

Thank you again for the advice.   It will be very hard for me to not go through with this on the 22nd.  I have switched to a SAO as of today. I appreciate everyone saying I should wait longer. I really am ready to stop! I was hoping that cutting my methadone dose down and skipping every other day for 2 months would help with it being out of my system. Spending 700 bucks on ibogaine HCL and TA was not an easy thing to save for.   So my problem is I don't know when I would have an opportunity to do this again.  Also once I get down to anything past 40mgs I am dying. If I go ahead with it will I be wasting my time or do I have a chance?  Has anyone else done it like this and it worked? OR is everyones experience the same with methadone?

That HCL and TA will last long enough for you to wait.  Don't rush it.  Yes,  I am sure a few people have kicked that high of a dose but not often...  Methadone sticks to you and the only thing that seems worse is suboxone.  The longer you are off it the better.  I weaned down to 5mgs methadone then switched to sao for one month and still had a hell of a time.  Coming from 60 or 65?  going to be a rough ride..  You would want to be in a clinic for that one... not a DIY style, you would not even want to take the medicine you might end up needing to to block those receptors.. you need someone who is very experienced, knows when you need more and how to convince you to take it,  on your side.   If you could switch to SAO for a month or longer or drop down to 30 ( or less) for several months your chance of succeeding will be higher.  You don't want to waste all that medicine right?  It will keep.  Keep it in a dark cool place preferably sealed.   It will still be good in a couple of months when you are ready.  roxine

Hi spryowl, i would suggest then doing a flood, and when the withdrawls start do a mini flood, it will definetely help you, boosters will definetely help, but all are individual for every person, would recomend and flood at about a month after. It will be difficult, one person was at 300mgr done a flood dropped to 30mgr and onother one in the distance of 2 months and quit. PM lala for detailed questions she is the person with experience with methadone. The botton line is will have withdrawls, buy 50gr rootbark and take 1,5-2 gr every time you feel withdral (aprox 160e for 50gr of root). My 2p . You must buy DLPA (prolongs and produces natural endorphines). l-tryptophan+B6 piridoxine (regulates sleep, food intake, etc), q10+l-carnitine , melatonine,  essencial oil of nutmeg (for relaxing, anti-inflammatory and much more), essencial oil of wild sage (up lifts mood). All of that i wrote ARE NOT ADDICTIVE softsparrow