1 gram HCL enough for opiate withdrawl
I say work with what you have.... I weigh about 165 and was told to do 1.5 of hcl so...that sounds pretty close. look at it as it will be better than using nothing at all. Make it work! I'm sure people with more knowledge will chime in. you could also consider micro dosing. let us know how it works out.
How did that dose workout for you? Did it completely take care of physical WD?
Thanks mellowhawk. Thats kinda what I was thinking. It's gotta be better then using no ibogaine. I'm not really sure about micro dosing? Can micro dosing effectively get you through physical WD's? The physical aspect is truly the hardest for me. My last withdrawal was literally so bad, that I have been using for the last year, just to avoid it. I was relapsing because I wasnt addressing other issues, that now I have a better understanding of.
I have never done a flood dose. I used root bark and micro dosed for a week to get me through kratom withdrawals which I used to get me through suboxone withdrawals. the micro dosing worked great. I didn't need to do a flood for it. although I will do a flood at some point. that was the amount that was suggested to me from Ibo world. I would think that would certainly help you through. The micro dosing helped with all the symptoms. rls, lethargy, ect, I even slept which was unbelievable. Sometimes forums can be slow on weekends, hold off until tomorrow and see if someone can better answer your questions. when are you planning on doing it?
I plan on doing it this month. What kind of dosing schedule did you use? Where you still able to function normally or did you take a few days off and do it? Thanks again for the help.
yes I would have been able to work .(if I had been working ) I did 300mg rb to test, seemed to be fine so did it 2 more times that day. than basically just got a feel for it and did that same amount for the first 3 days. It accumulates so about the third night I started to get small amounts of trailers, so backed off a bit and went to 300mg 2xs daily for a couple of days. you can really gauge it once you get going. I stopped after about 5 or so days and took a break, than did some more the next week for a few days. It seemed to give me some energy when I know I would have been feeling like I was walking through mud otherwise. I was able to go on with normal activity's.
Fast, and if you're able to do a colonic prior, it may lower your threshold like it did mine. I always fast before anything like this just to boost the effects, but if you want to make sure 1gm HCL will be enough, at least fast and at most colonic first. At least that worked for me.
I will definitely fast before hand. So do you guys think it would be better to do a flood with the 1 gram of hcl or microdose with it? My main goal of this is to get past the physical withdrawal part. I am gonna do a full flood in the near future to try and get to the root of my addiction. Currently my finances will only allow me the 1 gram but I cannot put this off any longer. Since I used suboxne about 3 years ago ( was on it a year), my physical WD's have gotten unbearable. They where never any fun but I used to be able to push through. At this point in my life the physical aspect is harder then the mental aspect of staying clean. Thanks for everyones input.
Tragic, If it were me I would try for the flood with the 1 gr of HCL. People have different sensitivity, but at 130 lbs the 1 gr gives you about 17 mg per kg of weight. I flooded for the 4th time about 1 mth ago to get off oxycodone and ended up doing 1 gr of HCL. I had planned on 1.4 grs but didn't do the last 400 mgs. I weigh 180 lbs so it came out to about 12 mg/kg. It worked to ward off any serious withdrawal symptoms. Had some watery eyes, sneezing and thermoregulation issues but nothing close to serious withdrawal. I felt whipped for over a week but doing pretty good now. I've tried microdosing before but it never worked for me. Hopefully, some of the very knowledgeable people here will chime in. There are at least 5 or 6 people on this forum that really know their shit that I have relied on extensively. I sympathize with your physical withdrawal situation. There isn't much that is tougher to endure. Good luck.
Thanks Fritz. I plan on taking a 50mg test dose just to make sure there are no allergic reactions. Then I was thinking about taking 500mg and 3 hours later taking the last 450mg. Instead of taking all at once, hopefully avoid some of the body load. I also just had the thought of taking the 500mg and then waiting until I start to feel WD again and then take the 450mg. Or something along those lines. Like maybe 500mg and then when WD;s return, say taking 150mg intervals until the WD's subside again? Does anyone have any experience dosing similar to that? Sorry for all the questions but I feel like when a bunch of people throw ideas around, you usually end up with something right in the middle, thats perfect. My supplier is also sending me their dosing schedule they reccomend for me.Just wanna explore all options.
I think many would agree with staging the dosage over 3-4 hours, but not many that recommend your idea of dosing less than to seek a flood. I have staged the dosage over a few hours and it was fine. Your specific question about dosing less than a flood was answered somewhere here previously in another thread and it was suggested to go for the flood to get the noribogaine buildup to carry one through the withdrawal period. From my experience, the "body load" of ibogaine is nothing compared to full blown withdrawal. That being said, I'm not a provider nor do I have experience as a sitter. I've flooded 4 times in 5 years but that doesn't qualify me as an expert. Read the old posts here. I think you will find some answers there. Good luck.
FAST FAST FAST The longer you can fast before taking all of it (you can spread it out over a few hours but make sure you get the whole gram in you.. but not until after a good long fast. All that water will come in handy later. Let me say it again. FAST. The answer to your question isnt cutting up that gram into parts. Its fasting beforehand longer than what you are probably comfortable with. FAST at lest 24 hours prior, at best 48. Lots of water. Juice is fine too. Just dont eat anything. FAST. Let your body meet that gram with all its force. Open up. Allow it in. Accept it. Embrace it. Enjoy its splendor. Let it work on you. Let it work on your neuroreceptors. Let it work. Allow it to do what it does so well. It is medicine. This is how you make it through this. This is your path forward. FAST. Even several fasts prior to going might be in order if you cant go sooner than later. Get every last microgram of that gram in your empty stomach and you will heal yourself, at least for a time.. if you can hold it.. that is another question, but save that battle for later. It'll be much easier than it is now. You'll go long periods of time without even thinking of it, carefree, comfortable, peaceful, without need, without foreign urges. Its fucking magic! Good luck!
Thanks guys. I will have no problem doing a 24hr fast. I was wondering about spreading it over a couple hours to avoid purging and losing any of the medicine.
Hi tragic, Welcome! I would take your test dose and maybe 30 min later start staggering your dose.. I wouldn't tkae half and wait three hours to take the other half though.. it might be better to take smaller amounts every 20-30min. instead.. but this is just my opinion.. do it however you feel comfortable. You do have about 6 hrs to get all of the medicine in but 3hrs between doses is a long time. IMO. Nice to have you here, roxine
Thanks roxine. I believe I am gonna do a dosing schedule like this. 00:00 - 50mg test dose +1:00 - 200mg +2:00 - 200mg +3:00 - 200mg +4:00 - 150mg I will have 200mg's left and am gonna take 50mg boosters as needed that night and the following day. I have been reading and learning about Iboga for the last few years and think this is the schedule I'm gonna use for my first run with it. I also plan on doing a flood in the fall, to work more on a spiritual level. The main intention of this is "addiction interruption". I have put this treatment off for a few years, because I wasnt really ready to stop using opiates before. I have finally come to the point in my life that I refuse to continue living this way. I cant get back the years I've wasted but I'm choosing not to waste anymore. Thanks for all the replys and I would love to hear any more thoughts or opinions that any one has. My treatment is scheduled for the 5th of August.
I have received my ibogaine and may do it sooner then the 5th. If anyone could chime in with their thoughts or advice as soon as possible, it would be greatly appreciated.
hey tragic, hope your good bro! i am by no means an expert so it's just an opinion! disclaimer over! but if I were you i would not hang on to any of your Ibo to use as boosters the following day,it will be infinitely more useful during the flood, just add the 200mgs onto your schedule and it will work its magic, also if you got yours from a well known source in the world of Ibo, you may find when you stick it on some scales, that you have more than a gram,even so i would still add it to your schedule unless your lucky enough to get over 1.5g. if your intent was spiritual/personal development then a "mild trip" would be fine but for addiction interruption you need to go slightly closer to the edge. i was in your position for 26yrs, the last time i was opiate free was for 3 months in 1990,thanks to Iboga, i have now been clean since december,and so far, so good! don't be too hard on yerself, try to surrender to whats happening and let Iboga take you where you need to go. it's more about how you feel than whether you take 200mg every 20 min or every hr. and i think you'll find once you take your test dose, fear is the first thing to dissipate. then just try to relax and slowly munch your way through your medicine. i hope you get what im trying(badly) to say. good luck and all the best, v