ECG stress test

Since this is your first post, Ghost of Bill Hicks (love the tag BTW),  I think we need need a bit more info on your situation before anyone could give you advice on this subject or anything else really... Using? What? How Long? Healthy? Etc... Thank You and Welcome to the forum! roxine

Hey oh sorry. Of course. I'm not using any other drugs apart from tobacco, I'm not doing it for addiction purposes but because from reading the accounts of spiritual growth and well being. I do smoke cigarettes though but otherwise I am healthy. I have done my research and got TA from IW plus boosters. I'm 12 and a half stone and 5 foot 10. I have lots of experience with aya, LSD, dmt and yoga and meditation. Thanks

I really think that if you are healthy and not detoxing from anything you don't need a test that monitors you for 24 hours.  I am sure you will be fine as long as you don't have any heart or major liver issues.   This is just my  opinion.*

The gp happily referred me for an ECG Exercise test ...one step closer! For anyone else doing this, just tell them you are going on a hike in Nepal and the company needs all participants to have one. With the gp's referral letter you can't get the ecg paid for by the NHS so it's about £250 but probably worth it for peace of mind.

Interesting Cal,  I have never taken HCL but plan to do a mix with TA soon.  Thank you for clarifying,  I had heard of some providers monitoring patients on HCL and TA and comparing those tests, but every ones heart rate could be different from one flood to the next I suppose...  Yeah if you get ANY new info I know I would love to see it

Yeah I'm going to be doing a mix soon also 50/50 TA and hcl - next weekend in fact. And I have only ever flooded once with HCL so I find the other materials safe - but (apparently) this new data suggests that the TA  can bottom out heart rate faster (supposedly this is mainly a concern in detoxes and not in psychospiritual - perhaps because of the dose differences, or that the medicine has to 'fight' its way through dope during a detox...?) - this was anecdotal until recently and I for one want to SEE the data, I just wanted to make sure that any of us here make certain that we are clear that anything we say regarding health and 'general reactions' etc...comes from as sure a source as possible - if not, we should highlight that it is our opinion or experience vs just putting it out there that this is the information. Not a dig on you my friend, like I said this came as news to me also - though I had heard scuttlebutt of this sort before - I do look forward to seeing the published data. Thanks for all your help 'la...I appreciate it!

Yes,  I would never want to give anyone the wrong information... I almost moved the "this is my opinion" to the end of that post.. I should have.  Thank You

Question/Comment The homemade TA is drastically different than what professional companies call TA which is actually PTA (Purified Total Alkaloids).  I've tried to stress this point in threads about making TA, and why we need to be more careful in what dosage to give someone.  And why what many have in the past said is ok for a flood dose with homemade TA is not applicable to professional TA(PTA) and vice versa.  This connundrum can cause overdose or underdose depending on which is used and what material a person might have learned from or read about.

Very true KP... Also does the quality of the bark itself (how old, etc) make a huge difference in the percentage of Ibogaine and the other alkaloids?  Will some batches from the same vendors using different bark make a difference as well?  Is PTA going to be about the same % of these alkaloids regardless of the quality of the bark? Thank You! roxine

Many variables exist in plant material - everything you mentioned has an affect on the % of actives in any given batch. The older the living plant is, the higher the concentrations of alks typically - but if you have root bark sitting in your closet for ten years, I am not sure if it loses any viability or not...I think in its natural form it stays pretty consistent. Most commercial bark is 5-6% alkaloids - maybe half of that is ibogaine, the rest is a mix of analogues. So, this is a good point you guys bring up - this is why if you make your own TA go by the weight of the bark for your calculations, not by how much material you yield after an extraction.

I musta screwed up my dates man - next weekend means this weekend lol...thanks for asking, very kind of you. I always bite my fingernails when I get close up on a flood...always. Bigtime hardcoreness, that. I'll let y'all know what's up - thanks again man. PS- this is commercial TA and super high grade ibogaine hcl (+96%) snow white  Love this place, man...

Back on topic, I did my ecg exercise test. They shaved my chest! Good news is that my heart is healthy and athletic, my bp perfect. One week until flood. Wish me luck and any tips for the week before? I'm on a clay and psilium cleanse as well as drinking lots of juiced veg and fruit, avoiding alcohol and other drugs. I smoke weed. How long should I cease that before the flood? Thanks

Hi Again GohstofBillHicks,  In my personal opinion I would eat something pretty hearty a day or two before your flood, you won't have much of an appetite afterward and you may feel pretty weak from it, you may want to fast for about 12 hours before the flood and probably not drink many liquids for about 6+ hours, you don't want to dehydrate yourself though.  You may want to have some ginger beer (non-alcoholic of course) on hand to settle your tummy if you get any nausea.  Also some good protein drinks afterward may be helpful..  It usually takes me a few days to get my appetite back, but when it does come back, for me, I can't get enough good, healthy food.  I like the green drinks a lot afterward.  You can get them pre-made (like Naked or Bolthouse Farms)  Not sure where you are, they may not even have these where you are, but I am sure you can find something like them....or you can make your own.  As far as the pot, you may not want to smoke it before the flood, afterward it can be nice.  A little mushrooms on hand for a couple of days afterward seems to be helpful for some.... I hope you get the experience you are looking for, but regardless, even if it isn't exactly what you are expecting the rewards will be great.  Please ask any more questions if you have them, and maybe some others will have some advice on this topic as well. roxine

That's really helpful, thank you. Got some mushrooms in my freezer, cool that's perfect. Ready for reset. Feel like Buzz Aldrin.

lalababa gives spot-on advice brother Bill...make it a point to super hydrate the preceding day, for drug detoxes I like to have them drink a gallon of water the day before. And fasting is a popular choice, I like to have a light breakfast - like yogurt and some fruit, maybe a bit of toast - but always I put at least 8 hours between myself and the Medicine. And if you have pre hydrated properly the day before this is real important. Like lala said, don't have liquids in you too close to taking it. I have done this and it is a mistake: especially for ibogaine, because it metabolizes too quickly and it sucks to be interrupted by needing a piss when you are on the cusp of the Land. Only need liquids to hand if serious vomiting or diarrhea happens. Then you should have electrolytes to feed your cells - coconut water (or juice or whatever its called) is excellent. I personally think it tastes like sweat but it is great medicine. Seems quite a few members are primed for a flood, I wish you all the best for a safe and potent journey, please keep us posted!