iboga root extraction ?

hola rOm , ta extraction from root bark is easy easy . i would go that route . just find some high quality root bark and do your own extraction . this way costs less and gets you in touch with this very powerful plant spirit in a more hands on way . never have tried volcanga so i dint know about that . mahalo. - harvey plex

Yeah I'm sure I will succeed with rootbark, but was wondering if root (not bark) worth extracting ? if they're is like 1%ibogaine..

leave whole root alone .

yeah, what he said.

i became violently,terribly ill from consuming whole root close to probably ten years ago. it was a very unpleasant experience,and i know i was dangerously dehydrated for the nonstop agonizing vommiting. the worst experience i have ever had with a plant. mr cal. was there,he can testify how bad it was. dont mess with whole root. thats my two cents.

Don't extract it either ? Okay, well now I'd love to get a 100 grams of iboga or a kilo RB for a decent price, but it so expensive !

Don't extract it either - unless you have a shit ton and are a chemist.

Hi brightwillow, Good to see ya I have been feeling kind of ... well sick to some point.  But in a way it is funny to see you tell people not to take root bark when you tried to take 10-20 grams.  If someone who tried to take that much told me not to I would not.  Best to ya Cal,  cinderpath

Hi cinderpath! Good to see you too man...I wasn't telling him not to take ROOT BARK I was telling him not to take WHOLE ROOT. Big difference bro. There's all kinds of unsavory nasties  in the whole root. I have indeed done root bark on several occasions. Upwards of 30g at a time, but never would I endorse someone messing with the whole root. That's why I said 'unless yoou have a shit ton and are a chemist' then you could shave the bark off the whole root and extract it yourself - but that would be a BIG job, labor intensive, and potentially dangerous if one did not know how to harvest the bark from the root. Thanks for the post bro - I hope you get to feeling better. Cal

read the post. we are talking about WHOLE ROOT. not rootbark. big difference.

rOm, Write to the iboga sellers and say you are ready to buy a kilo, ask what their prices are. Any businessperson will decrease price for bulk. There are the good folk listed here, plus one more I trust: ethnomedicines.com

I know this is an old post, but I just saw it and wanted to chime in with my own experience...I would HIGHLY advise leaving whole root alone. Apparently used traditionally as a anti-diarroea agent. I once did a very reckless thing many years ago...I ingested 25g of iboga whole root, all in one go in capsules, on my own, with a pinch of 10x caapi and Syrian rue extract. Definitely one of most stupid acts of my life, it made me very ill and knocked me off my feet for half a week, was more a severe poisoning than a bad trip, by far my worst experience ever with a plant and possibly the closest to death I have ever been, I would highly advise leaving it well alone, including for extraction...there is definitely other nasties in the whole root, and only a pinch of active alkaloids, really not worth it in my opinion, root bark is the way to go!

Yeah puma- that was damned near fatal dude...I don't even need to have been there to know what that looked like, I have seen it myself - a close friend (and a member here actually) took some ground whole root, before we really knew anything about how all this works - and he was trying to kick methadone with it! Never saw the poor bastard sicker than that, scary shit. Even scarier, by the time the morning came around, he wanted to go to the clinic to get his 'done. I took him, because at that time many years ago I did not know better. I do not think his dose was as much as you took , and I know he did not do it with any MAOIs but it sure as hell was ugly, and in retrospect a very close call. All this to say....keep away from the whole root!

Thanks for that cautionary tale, Cal.  Always want to put safety and caution first.

I would say go for it with the root. I think this is one way we can conserve iboga and make our own TA. I know Chris Jenks when he was starting with trying to extract iboga was working with "whole root" I am pretty sure. So it is definitely possible. It will be more work, but who cares...there is a whole lot more root than bark. Please do let me know if you try. I know there is a video on YT of Jenks talking about the process, should be easy to find. Thanks

Hi mistyturtle, From what I have read your not suppose to use whole bark but rather root bark to make extracts  because the bark contains other alkaloids that make it a rough ride.   cinderpath

Hi cinderpath & all. I am no expert but I am pretty sure plain root can be used to make a TA. It has much much less alkaloids if any...but is much more abundant thn RB of course. There is a pre test you can do to make sure the root has the alkaloids in it. I think the 1st time Chris Jenks extracted a TA was done with plain root as he couldn't get access to root bark. Here is a link that describes the root or root bark extraction and explains it a lot better than I could. ibogaine.mindvox.com/Articles/IbogaineExtractionManual.pdf If this is the case...we should be using all of the plant possible for the medicine. Someone who knows better than please confirm. I have heard that some of the tribes know how to get the root bark off the tree without killing it. Have you or anyone else heard of this? That would be some great knowledge to spread if it is possible. Thanks guys

do not consume whole root. it will make you terribly,violently ill. take my word for it.

Sure not consuming whole root is good advice, but just to be clear the whole root can be used to extract ibogaine and make a TA. In the last link I posted they give a pretty cool tek for testing the root to make sure the alks are present in the whole root. So once extracted only the ibogaloids are present and not the other stuff that would make you ill from consuming whole root which has not been extracted. I think this is pretty big as most people don't seem to know that the whole root can be extracted. Peace out crew.

I don't have the reference on hand, but I am fairly sure that the root itself has a very, very low concentration of actives. If you want to evaluate how reasonable whole root extraction is, you should research the concentration of actives in the root mass, how much root is on each plant etc to see if the extraction will yield anything worthwhile. Or you could grow an extra plant ;p

Exactly, as rho mentioned test the whole root before hand to make sure the alks are there, then extract it the same way in which you would do with root bark.