Ibogaine LD50
wow...so there giving these mice in extreme amounts like over 300mg/kg?? Thats insane...and here I thought 25mg/kg of HCl would be a nice sized dose for myself this next time, I would try more but I'm broke as hell now...and who would ever be able to afford or even could or want to take such a extreme high dose...but I guess there were trying to figure out how much it would take for an overdose. I guess it shows you can go pretty high up before worrying about , as long as your healthy enough in the first place and know you don't have an allergic reaction. But shows it's pretty hard to actually overdose on this is what it's kinda saying, right?
These numbers are put here just to show what the research is revealing - it is not meant as encouragement to do a psycho-huge dose or anything, but it may help alleviate some people's fears about overdosing. It seems it takes quite a bit to cause serious harm to us, and I wanted to have this information here so that people can see the margin for error. Anything else people can find on this topic would be most welcome.
What is effective in one animal species is deadly in another. So just cause a rat can handle 40mg/kg and another rodent can handle 100mg/kg doesn't mean this is the same in humans. We have a huge frontal cortex and this causes certain substances to have a much more profound effect on us psychologically in general. Also different animals may have different thresholds in the blood brain barrier or some other variable that makes dosing for us very different. Many providers rarely even hit the 15mg/kg mark for the flood dose these days as the risk to a persons health becomes more and more pronounced as you pass the 10mg/kg mark in humans.
Welcome back sunnyfox, thanks for the info.
Yeah, maybe that's true, but maybe that's just what they want you to believe. I am pretty sure it won't kill me in some 25 mg/kg range, because 15-20 didn't seem to really whoop my ass yet.. I am gonna go between 20-25 this next round with some 85% ibogaine and 15% other alkaloids. These are pure alkaloids, so we won't have to guess on the potency of the extract. I'll sure report how it all works out for me!
http://www.if-pan.krakow.pl/~popikp/alkaloids/alkaloids.html Blessings and Light! Nobu + Looks to be some folks have been getting the same messages' psychicaly ) LD50 = 263mg/kg body weight' . 48mg/kg body weight is the highest known dose I have seen'
Awesome link Nobu, I have just been reading about the QT wave and anesthetic type action of ibo that could be risky for those with the longer QT waves and it does seem to mention some things to that effect. Nice find! Gonna take me a little while to get it all absorbed in, though...
Glad you like' this is my original study file' just took me a while to find it' It is no conclusive' but does explain loads and gives great ground work for further study' Loving the new look folks' hahaha Bliss! Nobu +
Hey Nobu, 48mg/kg in what time period? Bark? HCl? Did the banzi remember much? What were the circumstances? Was this you? Very interested, Tia
Can top that 48mg/kg with a 50mg/kg of Ibogaine hcl' They pass out into a deep deep trance sleep' You go to a warm dark secure place' a very long way down through the layers of conciousness' you have to rouse them gently' by calling them back' keep em tetherd' (no scare em to death' just "Call them" gently' Then it fireworks and Lightning' If all biological body systems are running a ok' ie the Banzi is well enough to take Ibo' Ibo shall no kill you' just the more you take the longer and harder you shall trip' I have even seen someone walk about of 50mg/kg body weight for quite a lot of txperience' but he was smoking 2 grams of heroin a day' Still some fantastic feat of something' They only remeber it if you bring em back' there is no rousing them before this time' for all intence and purpooses they are unconcious' but I been there a couple of times' and you ain't un-concious' you are in the centre hole of the galaxie as far as I can discern' (everyone is different' I treated a chap for heroin' he was sensative to Iboga' it blasted him on 4 grams for well into 24 hours' /// Set and Setting' the jungle seriousley helps') Ok' Ibo is beatgn me at this typo stuff' So have a lovely day' Catch you in the mix' Bliss! Nobu + My Tata told me that he has a "Sorcerer friend' *wink* that ingested over 400 grams of Iboga in 3 days' I manged 56grams inside of 48 hours' was blasted for 2 months' with the voice of anfrican god in the head of which has never left since' ) Arriba Nganga!
Dag, man!!! I'd never come come down from 400 grams of Wood....Jeez! Well, Nobu, your dose of 56g is about double my ceiling dose for root bark so far. Once, I managed to actually eat all 30g of the dose I prepped but it didn't all stay in long enough. Talk about a purge...
HI All, Do you think it would be easier to do maybe 5 gm or RB for 5 days rather than a whole once in 24 hr or so? And when you take 56 in 48 hours is it stronger or milder than taking a two grams of hcl? Just wondering. Thanks, cinderpath