methanol tek

Thanks woodsyseal   !!!

So why is it that everyone is following Dr.Jenks Acid/Base extraction if all the alkaloids can be extracted via simple methanol extraction. Followed by a room temp or cold acid precipitation? I'm assuming your adding the HCL dropwise, then covering and placing isto a freezer, right?   Then once the alkaloids crash out of the methanol you boil off the remaining solvent, or if your a tightass like me you distill off the solvent to avoid polluting the air. Funny thing about methanol is if there wasnt a good reason (yield,potentcy,ect) I'm sure that would be the way everyone would be doing it. I'm not knocking what you claim either. I lnow very little on ibogas reactivity or solubility yet. Personally I always hated doing A/B's. Especially with OTC chemicals. Make that food grade chemies. OTC is just fine. When you boil off the methanol does it crackback or stay oily at the end?  What color is the precipitate once it drops from the acid addition?  What was the yield from how much starting material?  Alot of questions and no answers I know but I'm very interested in this method for in theory most every alkaloid is soluable in alcohols. WL

GreatfulDad -       Can u shine some light on this subject? if not from experience from theory? Why wouldnt a methanol extration be the best way to ovtain iboga alkaloids?  Maybe the same reason that methanol isnt employed in the extracting of DMT from mimosa....it may just pull too much shit you dont need/want in your final product. Thats my guess anyhow.

I haven't tried the methanol tek, so I can't give much advice on it.  It sounds simple enough, but I'll have to find some time to give it a shot.  Until then, I can't help much.

The best shit, bar none... (unless DMSO stored in glass would prove to be a godsend) http://organicalcohol.com/store/index.php/organic-grain-alcohol-1-gallon-1 Granted there out of stock now but it is worth the investment if you or someone else is looking for the optimal flood.  It extracts the spirit of Iboga profoundly as well as any other sacred medicine.  The 190 proof Organic Grape Alcohol has a very sacred synergy with plant spirits which is uncanny even amongst other solvents.  Come on methanol causes some severe side effects and is overall toxic.  Not a good choice.  Look for what will react best with the spirit of the medicine and extract the essence as well as the properties, this aint no DMT extraction where you fuck up the spirit left and right just to get a lift off.  This is the journey home where every aspect of the creation is sacramental in nature...just like brewing up Ayahuasca to be guarded by the holy temple of reverance.  Methanol is dirty and has terrible ill effects.

Hi Folks, Also, depending on which state you live in you can get 95% or 190 proof grain alcohol in a pint bottle.  I can't say it is organic or from grapes but for $5 or 10 it just may do what ya need it to do.  Other states only have 151 proof rum, yeah a shame. Best,   cinderpath

Methanol is just a solvent, and when evaporated, it is just as clean as any other clean evaporating solvent.  I know you dig the spiritual stuff Kamboga, and no offense, but if I pull the molecule out, without any residual chemicals present, I feel it's just as good as any other method.  I feel I have a wonderful relationship with iboga and it hasn't given me any indication that methanol is a bad idea.  Methanol is just wood alcohol, and very effective at pulling out the full alkaloid profile of iboga.  Nobu, tryl, and various others have all remarked about the potency and stability of the methanol tek, and I am going to get familiar with it and practice to get the very best quality TA that I can.  Methanol, isopropanol, and ethanol all have various properties that can effect the thoroughness of the extraction, and AFAIK, methanol seems to be one of the best choices.  Until I practice with all of them, I can't give the best advice, and so I don't like to suggest anything without having personal experience.  So, in the near future, I will be experimenting and trying to find the very best method for everyone, with alternatives for those who have trouble finding different ingredients for each tek, so that anyone, anywhere, can get the very best that they can. If you prefer to use food safe alternatives, Bancopuma did an extraction with d-limonene, that may be right up your alley.  It's gonna take me some time to try every method I know that is possible, but hopefully I can come up with more time in my schedule, that I can devote more time to tinkering around with them all, and possibly combining various techniques from all of them to get the very best quality and stability in the final product. I suspect the methanol tek, coupled with an ethanol recrystallization a time or two, may provide one of the most complete, stable, potent TAs available, but I won't know until I can give it a try.  So stay tuned!

Granted this is an alkaloid extraction very much the same as DMT. Both being spiritual sacramental plants. And what DMT extraction are you familiar with where you 'Fuck up the spirit lft and right just to get a lift off'? I've never felt that I was fucking anything up when I extracted DMT. Especially any spirits. Do you mean spirits as in alcohol or as in spiritualistic type spirits? Cuzz I never needed to do much more than take a seriously big rip on the ol'DMT bong and lifting off is putting it mildly.   Methanol is cheap and it burns clean and evaporates to nothing. At $1.97 a bottle I'm saving the last 20 grams of iboga to test this theory out. I cant understand your dislike of one of the best OTC alcohol based extraction solvents still available to those of us behind enemy lines. Shit in San Francisco they were actually toying with the idea that sugar and all artficial sugars (fructose,ect) need to be immediately pulled from the shelves and regulated in the same manner that tobbacco and alcohol are. So for a state that even considers listening to that type of garbage....I deem myself and anyone like me, lucky. Cuzz everything GreatfulDad said about methanol is completely true. Sure it's quite a bit more poisonous than ethanol. But what kind of dipshit leaves any amount of solvent on their product prior to taking it?  I just go with the cheapest most effective solvent usually, and I never , I REPEAT NEVER! mess with denautured alcohol....EVER!! anymore... I'm glad you stated your opinion of the DMT to Iboga sacramental specialness rating for us  as well. I for one cannot wait to experience this Full Flood I hear you peeps talking about.....Is that like breaking through with DMT?    The pussy that hits the DMT pipe with minimal inhalation intentions think they know what DMT is all about, but they dont. So with Iboga is it the same thing?  Or is iboga so much more personal/spiritual? Because DMT always either makes me want to smoke more and go back right away...or it scares the living shit out of me and I wont smoke it for a long time. Niether should be regulated and I would defend my right to ingest anything I please so long as it effects nobody else.