Not feeling anything yet

Never mind, I have Beeees in my ears finnally God Bless me

hope you get the honey....

Safe travels!

WOW  Methadone 35 mgs is hard to kick evan with as much as I ate for my body weight. I weigh 130. This tip was intense with spinning on the floor and the room was moving back and fourth and I thought to my self as I say the same as with DMT, Everybody has to at try this once    I can imagine doing this out side laying down watching a nice camp fire.  I felt so dumb after word I made this post about quality cause Ive been gone for a few days. It seams as my each trip with iboga I always visit the memories I have when I over dosed on iboga a year a go. Each trip I keep revisiting the same memeries I had from when I had done it last, If that makes any sence.  Its so long and time consumeing I realy get lost with my thoughts. Im begining to really like these long sessions but I am usualy depressed afterwards cause I havent gotten anything done with my life at age 36.   I still cant believe I had to go back to that damn clinic Thursday and im still at 35 mg and going down. Methadone is garbage I hate it. When my trip was over or whatever my hot flases were so intense the shower couldnt do anything untill that got cold and never mind I had an electric blanket. I wanted  to kill my self . Well I wanted to come back and edit cause I was to premature on saying my Iboga was not effecting me. In fact THE HONEY. A couple grams of that whoo whee    I wonder if this plant is good for our eyes , it does seem to have a weak of time of visual and tracers.   Oh and I will never flood on a methadone habbit. forget it. But I will flood again and again and again

Bummer you had to go back to the clinic. I know how hard it is to flood off methadone. I came out of my flood in full throttle w/d and stayed there for at least 5 days.... I haven't been reading all posts but,i remember you said you had some SAO to use post methadone/preflood. Did it work out?? When things got rough for me,actually after the real rough stuff was over,the PAWS became unbearable. Lack of sleep ect... really started to wear me down. I was at the end of my rope. What I did: a regime of low dose kratom. It stopped me from using hard drugs again and I didnt end up back at the clinic. I AM NOT ENDORSING THIS, SO DONT SLAM ME PLEASE. I'm just saying,with heavy hitters like methadone,sometimes harm reduction is best. I have been off methadone since the end of October. For me it is a dream come true to be free from the clinic system after 8 years! Ibogaine was the catalyst for this miracle in my life!!!! if you get stuck on methadone again,maybe some alternatives can help you get through it..... I don't need the kratom now, and I'm outta the hell hole clinic. This is just my experience,not a recommendation. Folks  around here may or my not agree with my approach. Getting off methadone or any opiate habit can be a process. Now I understand what people were saying: Ibo isn't a magic bullet so to speak but the starting point when beating these habits. I wish you the best egokiller.

The SOA thing did not work .   I started doing a few not totaly understanding what a BEAST methadone is and only waited bout 3 days and I flooded and the same thing as you, full throttle W/D once I came down   I had 2 grams TA extra and still do along with 20 grams RB. Im learning how this stuff works and Im realy liking the trips I go on. This last trip was so intense im almost coming to the conclusion that I realy like doing Iboga for the insight and revisiting the same memmeries over and over. Today when I went to the clinic this morning I had to go back up to 40. I was puking the whole way there and the whole way home.  because I missed 3 days of the done and what not i want to level off and continue to just get off the done without the iboga or maybe ill take the RB I have left. I also have 2 grams TA and 250 mgs HCL but I dont want to ever be in full throttle W/D again . I will beat this habbit if its the last thing I do and when Im done then Ill probably take what I have left in combonation HCL,TA, &RB    I Thank you for your kind words and insight. Im at least glad to say that it wasnt just me and that this methadone is IMO not recomended to use to beat the done.   Talk soon tideline

Hey happysparrow, If you don't mind, could you tell us  A) How long were you on methadone this time around?  B) how long you were able to be on SAO's? .... If I remember correctly, I don't think it was a very long time.   I don't want to sound harsh but it kind of seems to me that you aren't really ready to stop using.  I know that people have successfully used Iboga coming straight off methadone and had been on it for a very long time.  I don't think that 30-35mg for a month or two even, especially switching to a SAO should be impossible.  It wont be a walk in the park by any means but you have to put some effort into it.  I believe you went right back to using after the infamous "overdose" as well.  You need to expect a bit of discomfort after coming off of methadone or any long term opiate habit, it isn't ALWAYS the case but it USUALLY is.  I don't think you should be flooding "again and again" especially if you aren't ready to experience some down time.  I was able to switch to SAO for a month after several years on methadone, I did not feel very good for months, but eventually I did, great even!   Most of us who have done Iboga for these long acting opioids won't really get the "glow" that you would get if you aren't flooding after a huge and/or lengthy habit, there is the whole PAWS thing that is to be expected from long term use.  I defiantly did get the glow my second time which was about 7 months after my detox and it was AMAZING.   If your withdrawals were that bad after your trip I don't understand why you want to do it over and over again.. well maybe I do, but if you aren't prepared to do some work yourself then maybe Iboga won't work for you.  Are you putting your intentions into actually quitting opiates before your flood?  It seems like each time you have done it, you have gone straight back to using.  Have you had any clean time at all after a flood?  I believe and I bet some others would agree that if you abuse Iboga, it will get fed up with you.  It isn't a recreational drug and abusing it could end up hurting you...hell it already has.  Again, I am not intentionally being harsh, I just want you to understand that this isn't a plaything and I don't want others to be discouraged by your story either because it can and does work.  roxine

I was useing for a year and half since my OD FLOOD and when I lost my connect I resorted to the root but it took the 10 days to arrive, by then I was already in the clinics revolving doors and brought up to 70 and every time I wanted to go down cause I knew my stuff was here I had to wait to see the DR to  go on medical supervised withdrawal, evan to get them people to get the paper work for that is like pulling teeth. It was cause I was repatient and didnt want me coming back after I went (MSW)but yea it took about 2 months, Probably my fault for not doing so earlier but with a girl friend with 1 kid to get up for school its a bitch to see the dr cause theres always intakes and what not that happens there, you know.   Thinking I can hold on to some SAO, especially Dilaudid 8's WRONG   I could not wait the full 2 weeks cause I ran out to early and maybe I should have pre threw out bags of new works(needles) ,thinking im gonna need them again what was I thinking! You are rite LaLa,  It dosent seem That I am ready to stop because of my reckless behavior but I HAVE to and this last trip was pretty damn intense and was a  :ohead breaker thats for sure, I will get off this done and ill just do it there way and not this. Im sure I can use Iboga to enjoy these long duration trips,rite? I  can see the potential for abuse but I kinda like this stuff and want to do this without an opiate addiction to break.... I can imagine how wonderfull you must feel If you flood with NO PRE addiction state??  I dont think your being harsh and I do appreciate the truth,  Thank you for knowing my stories or atleast following along, They are pretty reckless I could agree but I am truthfull and I enjoy this place, this is the place I like to come to and I like reading the stories and other people experiances , But I can say that its me and not the result of the Iboga or misuse of it to why I go back to useing...

Thank You happysparrow, I don't ever want to come across as a bitch I just want to be honest and I would like the same of others.  If you don't really want to get off the methadone but MUST then you have to do some real deep soul searching... I don't think you will be able to stop if the will to isn't there.  Even if it is it can be very difficult. Addiction is a bitch. A few of us here have flooded more than once, twice and more but we still don't know the long term effects of multiple floods so to do it over and over again I don't think is wise.  I would wait at the very least 6 months if you aren't breaking an addiction.  Yes, if you aren't coming off a long term addiction it is even more amazing for sure!  I just want you to be careful and responsible.  I care about all of you here, truly. roxine