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Hi. I'm in the US, and have successfully ordered from iw. I was told to expect it to take 9 to 13 business days. That's probably what it turned out to be, but it felt longer. I used their courier service, which does not mean hand delivered, but ultimately passed on to the postal service. It takes time, week or so to pass through customs, regardless of legal status. Customs won't even know what's being sent. If you have concerns about quality, read my post on microdosing. I'm apparently very sensitive to iboga. Still, it has tobe fairly potent. Feel free to pm me if you wish to discuss anything more specific about sourcing. Id rather not publicize details of iw's operations. What little I know, that is.
Thank you silverwren97, a little reassurance can go a long way. I did read your posts and thanks for being so honest,your experience with the hospital really sounds like living a nightmare, I wish you all the best. I also wish to microdose to help get me into the optimum position for success before i go for a flood dose. anyway back to the thread topic. I don't see the point going for the courier(slightly quicker postal service) if it doesn't actually go via courier. I guess it's a case of order and hope for the best.
Ummm that was me, Egokiller that overdosed and ended up in ambulance and a week hold in the loony bin.
The courier service definitely expedited the arrival of my parcel, but, as I said, I'm over the drip. The US is mildly fanatical about drugs that can't make wealthy people rich. Bear in mind, the product does not ship from the Netherlands, but Cape Town. If not, I would agree with you. Since it does, it may scoot things along. Legality is not a concern
How come it is not a concern? Is the risk involved not bad? Also, would is be safer ordering TA instead of the HCL? Or are they equally at the same risk level?
whats up Doc,(sorry couldnt resist) the fact that it ships from cape town and not Holland will certainly make a difference. thanks for that nugget of info. I was unaware of that,I may have gone for the courier if i'd have known. but I've gone for the slow method already so just a case of wait and see now.
something just occured to me, please correct me if i am wrong i understand that root bark and TA would be sourced from africa obviously. but as i understand it, HCL is synthetic. it was a while ago now so i may be wrong, but i did read that the only lab producing HCL is in belgium(or is that only for the late great Howard Lotsofs end abuse?) so when buying HCL would they not send it from belgium or holland? just a thought.
I wondered that about IW aswell. It gets delivered from SA, yet it says its extracted in Holland. Strange.
Hi Very, Ibo is not a synthetic, you may be thinking of 18MC which is a synthetic Ibo made in a lab with chemicals. Best, cinderpath
thanks fer puttin me straight Roy, yes your right, the synthetic is 18MC, I remember reading about synthetic ibo but don't rem the term 18mc,maybe i assumed it was hcl, i can no longer find the site i got that from. apparently it has the same or similar effect on addiction but does not affect serotonin levels, so i guess its not for me.
By synthetic what I think you really want to say is extracted from Voacanga Africana. There are 2 laboratories doing this. I'm not exactly sure which one of them they are or where they are. In order to find if Iboga World is extracting Tabernanthe Iboga or Voacanga Africana to make there HCL, one would need to ask them directly. If they don't want to answer it could very well be propriety information. I would stipulate that if a treatment center refuses to answer they are quite possibly using Tabernanthe Iboga to make there HCL as it has far higher concentrations of Ibogaine and is way easier to extract with. To make HCL out of Voacanga Africana one needs to be not just a chemist but a freaking expert chemist.
Thanks a lot for that KIAP, i didn't know bout voacanga containing ibogaine, I'll try check it out, maybe throw a mail at IW. i assume iw would use Iboga, Ibo has 100 times the Ibogaine than Voacanga, but i just read it is poss to extract TA from Voacanga, must be pretty closely related, also read variations of Tabernanthe family are also found in Australia, hhhmmm availability looking up poss, i do think about the sustainability of Ibo, so this is great to read! good t know, peace v
hi there doc, I think the main reason it is not a concern is that they do not have a test for ibo at the borders so even if they test for drugs it comes up negative, i have flooded w HCL and used TA for boosters,so not the best person to ans this but from what i have read (over and over) is HCL is a cleaner (less nauseous) way to go, if your using it for addiction and can afford it go for HCL (imho), if for other reasons you best ask someone else. hope this helps, peace v