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mistyfalcon17
2d ago
Salvia, Iboga interactions with the psychedelic afterglow
I posted the following on Bluelight.ru, but I feel it also belongs here, as it involves Iboga.
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I have made a few observations. One is that with classical psychedelics, the afterglow seems inherently tied up with tolerance, lasting for usually about a week after the trip. One way to determine how much tolerance you have from a previous trip is to ask yourself how much afterglow you are still feeling from it.
Second, I've discovered, at least for myself, that taking a kappa-opioid agonist, such as Salvia or Iboga, in the wake/afterglow of a tryptamine experience, is a recipe for a negative experience. One that will leave you feeling shitty. Real shitty.
On the other hand, taking a tryptamine or phenethylamine in the wake of a kappa opioid agonist experience, is a recipe for an immensely positive experience, with the best afterglow ever.
In my experience this is a repeatable experiment. I don't know what is happening neurochemically, but psychospiritually, I think it has to do with the fact that the afterglow involves reintegrating psychedelic openness into the ego, which Salvia and Iboga wantonly dismantle (in a more aggressive way than tryps/phens). On the other hand, after Salvia, one is left pretty open and receptive, with ones sense of identity not fully determined. This is an ideal mental space for work with tryps/phens.
Does anyone else share this observation? I mean, I've noticed that people who hate Salvia the most are people who tryp often...
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joyce_seeks· 2d ago
I don't have much experience using salvia in close proximity with trypta/phenathylamines, so I don't have much to add. However I smoked salvia once while plateauing on LSD. That was crazy (the good kind). I've read that smoking salvia when you're coming down from psychedelics is a bad idea though, but I don't think that applies to the afterglow.
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